Showing posts with label Norway Family. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Norway Family. Show all posts

Monday, October 28, 2024

#52Ancestors52Weeks...Week 43 and 44 Themes...Lost Contact/Challenging......Are You My (Norwegian) Cousin? Part 2

 


"Unni" 
 Somewhere near Olso, Norway.
Photograph taken sometime after 1930.
Unni's place in the family tree remains a mystery. 


Back of photograph

   "Hello Heine...

  Do you know again little Unni, taken this summer...She never forget you and very often speak about, she can't understand yet that your father is my uncle, and why you are so far away.  

                                  Yours

                                   Emma (?)   "



 Unni and Harold Klemmetsen
Somewhere near Oslo, Norway.
Taken after 1930.


Back of photograph
 "Father and little Unni giving him caffe in the garden."





  My grandfather Harold Hansen (his nickname was Heine) took a trip in 1930 to visit with his father's family on their farm near Oslo, Norway.  These photographs were sent to Harold from his first cousin Emma after his 1930 visit.  Grandpa's father, John Hansen, was Emma's uncle; Emma's mother was Hulda Klemmetsen, John's sister. 

  John Hartwig Hansen, grandpa's father,  had lived with his sister Hulda and her husband Harald Klemmetsen in Oslo, Norway before coming to America in the 1890's.  John Hansen kept in touch with his family as evidenced by trips back to Norway,  many (unidentified) photographs, several remaining letters, and the heritage he proudly passed on to his sons.  



 A Christmas card sent to Grandpa, signed by Emma Klemmetsen, date unknown (but before 1939).  I am not sure if Emma was ever married.


                                                                     Inside of card with Emma's signature.


  envelope

Sadly, over time, later generations have lost contact with this branch of the family.  WWII caused a rift between members of the Norway family, with some members participating in the underground fighting against the German occupation and others siding with the Germans.  We believe some relatives ended up in the Chicago area after that.  The last contact between the Norway family and our Hansen family was sometime in the 50's when "Mia" came to the states to visit with Robley (Uncle Bob) Hansen and his family.  Was this Emma?  And who did Unni belong too? 



 Uncle Bob with "Mia" on the front porch of the Arlington Avenue home in Reno, Nevada.  Circa 1950's. 
Photograph from the Bob Hansen Family Album
 


    Piecing together this branch of the family has been a real challenge!  Generational links have mostly faded away and valuable information has been lost to time. I do have many pictures, some with identification, but most with nothing written on the back.  Just little pieces to a very large Norwegian puzzle.  

  These are pictures that either have identification written on them or that I have identified from other known photographs. I pieced together the family tree for Harald and Hulda Klemmetsen several years ago using Ancestry.com, original family documents and letters that Grandpa wrote while on his trip in 1930.  Here is what I know....


Hulda and Harald Klemmetsen

Photograph taken around 1900 (possibly 1905) in Norway. 
Ingeberg Studio, Christiana (Oslo)
Cabinet Card.


 Harald Peter Klemmetsen (b. 1862 Norway) m. 1885
Hulda Elvine Kristine Gunderson/Hansen (b. 1857 Christiana, Norway)

     (Children all born in Christiana, Norway)

1.  Hartvig Harald Aleksander Klemmetsen b. 1885
2.  Elvira Matea Sophie Klemmetsenb. 1887  d. 1894
3.  Marie Kristiane Harolda Klemmetsen b. 1892
4.  Kristian Valdemer Klemmetsen b. 1892  (Christian the farmer in Ski)
5.  Emma Hansine Klemmetsen b. 1894
6.  Hans Petter Klemmetsen b. 1896
7.  Rolf Henry Klemmetsen b. 1898.  (Ralph the ship captain)




This photograph was taken at the same studio as the above photograph.  John Hartwig Hansen posing with his  cousin Emma; he was wearing his Spanish American War Naval uniform with a medal of some kind.  He must have visited Norway right around the turn of the century, possibly in 1905 after his marriage to Vere Burrows. 
Cabinet Card. 



This embossed photograph was taken at the same studio as the above two pictures. 



Candid photograph of John Hansen with Harald Klemmetsen,  taken at the same time as the above picture. 



Date on back is  "4.7.1905"  and may possibly date all of these photographs to 1905.  Marie Klemmetsen's name is also on the back.   This was taken at the Ingeberg studio, but has a different look to it.  The chair is the same as in the portrait of Hulda and Harald. 
Cabinet Card. 


Emma and Marie Klemmetsen

Photographs taken at the Ingeberg Studio at the same time as the above pictures.  Emma would have been 11 years old and Maria would have been 13 years old in 1905.  
Cartes de Visite






Identified as "Rolf Henry March 30, 1900" on back.  Taken at the Ingeberg Studio. 
Cabinet Card.



Rolf Klemmetsen 
Ingeberg Studio
If this picture was taken in 1905 Rolf would have been 7-8 years old. 
Carte de Visite.





Rolf Klemmetsen
Photograph taken in Christiana (Oslo) Norway, around 1910-11 at the Kongsrud Studio, Christiana, Norway.
Carte de Visite.



Emma Klemmetsen 1913, Oslo, Norway


Back of photograph

   Translation from Norwegian to English:  

"Dear Uncle!  Here you see me in front of the house-I hope you recognize it.  As you can see, I'm all grown up now, and I'm already 19 years old.  We are so thrilled and overjoyed that you're coming to Norway.  Oh, we're going to have so much fun! Just imagine how fun it will be to teach Aunt Vere and our little cousins to speak Norwegian.  Welcome!  
     Warm regards, Emma." 

  If Emma was 19 years old, she wrote this to John Hansen in 1913.  He was already married with three little boys at home, so the context would make sense with the date.   It sounds like John was planning to  make another trip right before WWI with his family.  I don't think they made that trip, possibly due to the war. 



 Hulda Klemmetsen,  Harold Hansen and Emma Klemmetsen, 1930.
Harold Hansen made a trip to  Norway in 1930 to visit his father's relatives. 


 Harold Hansen with (possibly) Rolf or Christian Klemmetsen in 1930.




 Emma Klemmetsen 1933 


  I have many more pictures, some I can identify from the above pictures, some I cannot.  It is obvious that this branch of the Norway family missed John Hansen, enjoyed his visits, and got to know John's sons later on.  It is sad that our later generations have lost this connection.  It is a branch of our family tree I would love to know more about.  

    I do have DNA matches to quite a few people with Norwegian ethnicity; as yet I haven't been able to make any connections between our trees, as most trees from matches are not built out or are nonexistent. This has been very frustrating and very challenging to say the least.  Hopefully, over time, I will find a cousin that has a piece of the puzzle I can use!  

    Unni's relationship to our family still remains a mystery.  



Relationship Reference:

Me->Margaret Hansen Boothby->Harold Hansen-John Hartwig Hansen





Monday, April 13, 2020

A Mystery Mostly Solved (Hansen)

1865 Norway Census which lists the family of Hans Johan Gunderson and Anna Soffie Olsdatter


  Sometimes genealogy research just goes like this....
In my last post, I shared the partial transcript of my Grandfather Harold  Hansen's Life Story and how he went on a grand adventure to Norway to visit his father's family when he was a young man.  Harold's father was John Hartwig Hansen who immigrated from Norway and eventually settled in Grass Valley.   In that story, there were clues.  Clues that were important, because this side of the family has always been a mystery. I don't have much information on the Norway family in my possession, nor have I been able to find anything when I did preliminary research.   Yet, there is a still a strong cultural connection with the country of Norway that has been handed down to  members of my family on the Hansen side.  We still identify in some ways as being "Norwegian" to this day. I've always been curious about this family that my Great Grandfather John Hartwig Hansen came from. 

 Who were John Hartwig Hansen's parents?  Did he really change his name to Hansen when he immigrated to America from something else? Who exactly did Harold Hansen visit when he was in Norway?  Grandpa said that his father John Hartwig wrote to his brother-in-law Harald P. Klemmetsen who had a shipping firm out of Norway.  He said his father's sister was Aunt Hulda.  Aunt Hulda and Uncle Harold had a son named Ralph who was a ship captain, and another son Christian who was a farmer in Ski. So, from these clues I was able to find the Klemmetson family in Christiana, Norway.  From there, I discovered an 1865 Norway census on Ancestry.com that listed not only Johan Hartvig, but his sister Hulda E. Christine.  This family lived in Christiana.  The father listed on the census was Hans Johan Gunderson.  Humm.....Hans, Hansen, son of Hans.  Yes!  After some quick research on Scandinavian family name etymology I found out that heritable family names were adopted rather late within Scandinavia.  More precisely in 1923 in Norway it was ordered by law that each family should have a single, hereditary last name.  So, before 1923, names were originally patronymic and commonly ended with the suffixes "--ssen", "--sson", "sdatter", "-sdotter" which is the genitive s plus the word sen or son for son or datter or dotter for daughter.  The genitive s was often dropped; compare Hanssen and Hansen.        Light bulb moment.    Two days later, this is what I came up with.  Looks like I found them! 


                                Hans Johan Gunderson b. 1824 d. 1874 Christiana, Norway
                                                                        married 
                                            Anna Soffie Olsdatter b. 1824 Christiana, Norway


1. Gustav Olaf Hansen b. 1848  Christiana, Norway
2. Carl Fredrich Hansen b. 1855 d. 1875  Christiana, Norway
3. Hulda Elvine Kristine Hansen b. 1857  Christiana, Norway
4. Oliver Valdemer Hansen b. 1861  Christiana, Norway
5. Johan Hartvig Hansen b. 1865  Christiana, Norway  d. 1945 Grass Valley, CA

*********************************************************************************

                                       Harald Peter Klemmetsen b. 1862 Christiana, Norway
                                                             married
                                                        15 February 1885 
                  3. Hulda Elvine Kristine Gundersen (listed as Gundersen on her marriage                                                                              certificate). 

                                         (Children all born in Christiana, Norway)
1.  Hartvig Harald Aleksander Klemmetsen b. 1885
2.  Elvira Matea Sophie Klemmetsenb. 1887  d. 1894
3.  Marie Kristiane Harolda Klemmetsen b. 1892
4.  Kristian Valdemer Klemmetsen b. 1892  (Christian the farmer in Ski)
5.  Emma Hansine Klemmetsen b. 1894
6.  Hans Petter Klemmetsen b. 1896
7.  Rolf Henry Klemmetsen b. 1898.  (Ralph the ship captain)

Grandpa also talked about Mia and Emma.  Mia may have been Marie.  This family was easier to find as they all kept the name Klemmetsen. (Thank goodness). 



                                        5. Johan Hartvig Hansen (aka John Hartwig Hansen) 
                                                           married  3 July 1904
                                        Clara Vere Burrows in Grass Valley, California

1.  Hulda Elizabeth Hansen b. 1905 d. 1905 Grass Valley, Ca
2.  Jack Klemmet Hansen b. 1906 d. 1986 Grass Valley, Ca
3.  Robley Evans Hansen b. 1909 d. 1985
4.  Harold Lloyd Hansen b. 1910 d. 1993 (my Grandfather).



  What is interesting to me is that the only information my Auntie Claire had written down for John Hartwig Hansen's parents were the names Hans Gundersen and Annie Alson.  I found a copy of John Hartwig Hansen's marriage certificate at the Historical Society and the names listed as parents were Hans Hansen (father) and Sophy (mother).  Alson could have been close to Olsen, which refers to her last name of Olsdatter (daughter of Ole, which would have been Olsen, son of Olsen).  Norwegian genealogy research is not for the faint at heart.  Other interesting connections are the names Hulda and Klemmet in my Grandfather's family.  I always wondered at the origins of those very Norwegian names! John Hartwig was obviously very attached to his siblings and brother in law.  Maybe he missed his Norwegian family very much.  And, his last name was always Hansen.  He did not change it when he came to America, but he Americanized his first and middle names like so many immigrants before and after him. 

And so the mystery is mostly solved.  There is still more research to do, but Ancestry has limited resources that have been digitized for Norway.  Maybe someone in the future can find more information.  I would love to travel to Oslo and do some hunting for original source material.  And how about this question... was Hans Johan Gunderson's father named  Gunder? I found a buriel record for a Gunder Knudsen in 1829.  His buriel place is listed as Den Norske Kirke, Froland, Aust-Agder, Norway.  It is suggested by 23andMe that our Norwegian DNA may be from the Aust-Agder area of Norway.   So, another mystery that needs solving!


PS...the name of Christiana was changed to Olso in 1924.